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Canon C300 Vs RED Scarlet X

A few nights ago, both Canon and RED announced cameras in the heart of filmmaking land, only 10 blocks apart from each other. Judging from the specs you could easily say that RED blows Canon right out of the water. 4k resolution at 1-25fps, 2k at 60fps and HDR-x technology at a pricepoint that's comparable to Canon's 1080p are the core differences. Still, I will probably go for the Canon C300... here's why.

Canon C300 Versus RED Scarlet-X

Canon C300 Vs RED Scarlet X

In this post, I'm not going into the fine details of the announcement, as these have been covered at length in various blogs:

Please read these blogs first, if you have no idea what the announcement was all about.

"Viewing" the various live blogs and tweets on the event from 11PM onwards on my iPad, I was disappointed by the end when Canon announced the price: $16 msrp for the EF-version. This price will likely go down a few notches when it hits the streets in January, but it sure is a hurdle to take, given the specs. I mean, no 50/60fps in 1080p!? Even a cheap Sony NEX-5N can do that! So I went to bed just before the start of RED's announcement (2AM). However, after a night with little or no sleep (tossing and turning), I was blown away by the news from RED.

Canon C300 Vs RED Scarlet X

Nonetheless, having thought about it some more, I think the Canon route is still the better option, regardless of the very (and I repeat VERY) attractive specs that RED offers. Here's why:

  • Canon is worldwide / RED isn't
    Service is a deciding factor for me. If you spend 10k+ on an A-Camera and you depend on it for your craft, you want to make sure you get excellent service when it breaks down (it happens). Since I'm based in the Netherlands, this means I would have to send in a RED camera to the UK or perhaps USA for service - probably without the option of replacement bodies. This is probably also why Canon chose to set up a service center in Hollywood.
  • Canon offers 1080p now, but 4K in the future
    I need a camera yesterday with XLR inputs, great low-light performance and virtually no rolling shutter/moire issues. Basically, all the stuff I don't get on current breed of DSLRs, which, by the way, have served me well over the past few years. Most of my clients (I make productions for online mainly) are happy with 720p final resolution, and I expect this to remain so for at least the next year or so. Maybe they'll want 1080p, but then the C300 delivers. Also, by that time the new 4K DSLR will be here, which could serve as a replacement B-Camera.
  • Sony FS100/F3 are not option (yet)
    I am heavily invested in Canon glass, all EF mount. Unless MTF/Birger come up with a mount w/o a breakout box, I can't shoot with the FS100/F3 on anything other than a tripod. It sure is a source of unbalance on a Glidecam and cumbersome on a held-hand rig or a monopod (the latter which I shoot a lot with). MTF should include an aperture control ring on the mount itself. No, it won't be as smooth as manual control (it will click at 1/3 increment stops as does the camera), but you have no separate device dangling below your lens.

That being said, I still have some thinking to do myself before I make a final decision.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

    Good article!
    But would do well with some corrections to the grammar in a few places.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=650092008 Tulio Campregher

      how good is your Dutch?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

      Tulio Campregher I don't write articles in Dutch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

    Good article!
    But would do well with some corrections to the grammar in a few places.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=650092008 Tulio Campregher

      how good is your Dutch?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

      Tulio Campregher I don't write articles in Dutch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=140378642657544 Blake Cortright

    As an indie filmmaker - Scarlet is right up my ally. Fund raise, incorporate camera cost and cost of glass into production costs and bam. Granted, for TV production, internet production, etc I think the Canon may have RED beat out bc you don't need 4K or even 2K for those mediums. But I think RED is trying to tackle the hollywood digital filmmaking industry with Epic and trying to grab the independent industry with the Scarlet.
    Thanks for posting! I like the consolidation :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=140378642657544 Blake Cortright

    As an indie filmmaker - Scarlet is right up my ally. Fund raise, incorporate camera cost and cost of glass into production costs and bam. Granted, for TV production, internet production, etc I think the Canon may have RED beat out bc you don't need 4K or even 2K for those mediums. But I think RED is trying to tackle the hollywood digital filmmaking industry with Epic and trying to grab the independent industry with the Scarlet.
    Thanks for posting! I like the consolidation :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1067272278 John W Rouse III

    Need it

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1067272278 John W Rouse III

    Need it

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000311707857 Marcial Chavez

    one can only wish its affordable for Indie film makers...:(

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000311707857 Marcial Chavez

    one can only wish its affordable for Indie film makers...:(

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1197963095 Soundara Raja

    wonderful make canon C300....its really good and great features for low budget film makers...

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1197963095 Soundara Raja

    wonderful make canon C300....its really good and great features for low budget film makers...

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=169231583122713 United By Photography

    These large single sensor are primarily aimed at videographers as opposed to DSLR video users so the body cost may prove prohibitive, but for those with either the extra spend or planning to hire may well enjoy the improved features and body build of these cameras.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=169231583122713 United By Photography

    These large single sensor are primarily aimed at videographers as opposed to DSLR video users so the body cost may prove prohibitive, but for those with either the extra spend or planning to hire may well enjoy the improved features and body build of these cameras.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=746738377 Phillip Kibbe

    Are you joking? If worldwide service is your only concern, I'd say your really missing the mark. Guys, who are we joking, the red's sensor rips canons out of the water. If you don't think raw is all that important, try inserting high end special effects into 1080p footage. Don't be a gerk, get the scarlet. HAving said that, I love my 5d and 7d to death.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      How do you know RED's sensor is better?? Test them first and then decide. I shot a lot on RED and will do no more in the future!! They are unreliable!! And cumbersome towork with and the post is more expensive. Unless you produce for the big screen. Go for a real reliable camera with a perfect workflow.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

      I kind of agree.
      also, the scarlet can only shoot 4k at 30fps.
      5k is limited to 12fps.
      ALSO, everything BELOW 5k is cropped!
      really not impressed with the RED in that aspect.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=308066825921135 maclandsend

      In repose to the moronic review posted by the person that reviewed the camera without using it. according to tests done by the ASC. A panel of career cinematographers were unable to tell the difference between 5k and 2k. To put in in simple terms, the human eye cannot physically tell the difference between the two. So unless you plan on animating a million orcs, or painting all the actors faces blue, or transform cars in to dancing robots there is no reason to shoot in 5k. And if you do have the time and money to work on a project that requires 5k usually some one else is paying and you rent an ALEXA. For the rest of us who use cameras we own everday on a varity of projects, built in ND and compact flash cards are pretty convenient.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

      maclandsend 2 things:
      1. Camera doesn't matter nearly as much as the person using it.
      2. it's just personal preference at the end of the day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=746738377 Phillip Kibbe

    Are you joking? If worldwide service is your only concern, I'd say your really missing the mark. Guys, who are we joking, the red's sensor rips canons out of the water. If you don't think raw is all that important, try inserting high end special effects into 1080p footage. Don't be a gerk, get the scarlet. HAving said that, I love my 5d and 7d to death.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      How do you know RED's sensor is better?? Test them first and then decide. I shot a lot on RED and will do no more in the future!! They are unreliable!! And cumbersome towork with and the post is more expensive. Unless you produce for the big screen. Go for a real reliable camera with a perfect workflow.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

      I kind of agree.
      also, the scarlet can only shoot 4k at 30fps.
      5k is limited to 12fps.
      ALSO, everything BELOW 5k is cropped!
      really not impressed with the RED in that aspect.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=308066825921135 maclandsend

      In repose to the moronic review posted by the person that reviewed the camera without using it. according to tests done by the ASC. A panel of career cinematographers were unable to tell the difference between 5k and 2k. To put in in simple terms, the human eye cannot physically tell the difference between the two. So unless you plan on animating a million orcs, or painting all the actors faces blue, or transform cars in to dancing robots there is no reason to shoot in 5k. And if you do have the time and money to work on a project that requires 5k usually some one else is paying and you rent an ALEXA. For the rest of us who use cameras we own everday on a varity of projects, built in ND and compact flash cards are pretty convenient.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=596652602 Nitsan Simantov

      maclandsend 2 things:
      1. Camera doesn't matter nearly as much as the person using it.
      2. it's just personal preference at the end of the day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=732522534 Engr Stanley Anih

    what a camera'? nice one by canon again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=732522534 Engr Stanley Anih

    what a camera'? nice one by canon again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

    The Canon is by far the best choice!! Great for any kind of production!! The price is pretty high. 15.000 would have been nicer, Like the Sony F3.. just above...

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1095230804 Maurice Spees

      Ok ok, you got me....Canon wins the game... ;)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      @[1095230804:2048:Maurice Spees] It's about time Maurice!! But what do you know about cameras anyway. ;-) By the way , my friend, I will get that VAF-5D2 ant aliasing / moiré filter next week!! See you soon! :-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1095230804 Maurice Spees

      @[552141568:2048:Arie Van Dam] Arie Van Dam I know all I need to know bout cameras. That they're bringing unfinished projects to the market to let us figure out for ourselves why it isn't good enough. And the final perfect camera will never come out for a small price unless you invent it yourself. The "you get what you pay for, is totally true with cameras." Small digital cameras are never complete, unless you are ready to pay for something that you can only afford when you actually made it...
      That's the game. You make it with an unfinished camera, to eventually work with a camera that is actually complete, and then, so are you... :D

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1095230804 Maurice Spees

      Sometimes I wish I didn't know about cameras, while; it's an endless desire.
      The only way to end this is to become a Buddhist monk, and in the end, that might even be the option I choose...

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

    The Canon is by far the best choice!! Great for any kind of production!! The price is pretty high. 15.000 would have been nicer, Like the Sony F3.. just above...

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1095230804 Maurice Spees

      Ok ok, you got me....Canon wins the game... ;)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      @[1095230804:2048:Maurice Spees] It's about time Maurice!! But what do you know about cameras anyway. ;-) By the way , my friend, I will get that VAF-5D2 ant aliasing / moiré filter next week!! See you soon! :-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1095230804 Maurice Spees

      @[552141568:2048:Arie Van Dam] Arie Van Dam I know all I need to know bout cameras. That they're bringing unfinished projects to the market to let us figure out for ourselves why it isn't good enough. And the final perfect camera will never come out for a small price unless you invent it yourself. The "you get what you pay for, is totally true with cameras." Small digital cameras are never complete, unless you are ready to pay for something that you can only afford when you actually made it...
      That's the game. You make it with an unfinished camera, to eventually work with a camera that is actually complete, and then, so are you... :D

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1095230804 Maurice Spees

      Sometimes I wish I didn't know about cameras, while; it's an endless desire.
      The only way to end this is to become a Buddhist monk, and in the end, that might even be the option I choose...

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1333251795 Ed Hurd

    Would like to have seen the c300 on Zacuto's The Great Camera Shootout 2011.

    The Flex didn't look too bad considering it is a specialized camera, I would like to see how the Fastec ts3 compares..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1333251795 Ed Hurd

    Would like to have seen the c300 on Zacuto's The Great Camera Shootout 2011.

    The Flex didn't look too bad considering it is a specialized camera, I would like to see how the Fastec ts3 compares..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001272490157 Ara Dramm

    I believe for the money, service availability, and diversity in lense options the Sony F3 is the best entry level cam on the market. Talk to the pros who use Red products...quirky is an affectionate term!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      I think the C300 is the best choice.. Straight from the camera 4:2:2, 50 mbps, sealed against moisture and dust. (nobody seems to see that!!) , uses CF cards, no silly 3 position mini switches for ISO (DB) and white balance. But a quick way to put it where you want, without digging deep in a menu. It works like on the DSLR's and that is really really quick. Important for Documentaries etc. And it seems to have the best sensor around, with th best lowlight possibilities and very filmic look, like the Arri Alexa!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=22702359 Che Broadnax

      Arie Van Dam Yeah, but 4:2:2 MPEG2 files? Ick. I've worked with the RED and RED MX a LOT, and those cameras certainly have their share of idiosyncratic quirks and straight up boneheaded flaws, but what they do better than anybody (besides Alexa shooting ARRIRAW) is give you some files with some freaking color data in them. RED RAW is soooo far preferred to a 4:2:2 signal compressed in MPEG (of all things). And even if you're shooting SxS on Alexa you can choose 4:4:4:4 and it's ProRes which is a much easier to use format than MPEG. I don't care about 4K, really, I'm fine with 2K. And I'd live with HD if Canon could just give us a file that wasn't compressed so dang much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001272490157 Ara Dramm

    I believe for the money, service availability, and diversity in lense options the Sony F3 is the best entry level cam on the market. Talk to the pros who use Red products...quirky is an affectionate term!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      I think the C300 is the best choice.. Straight from the camera 4:2:2, 50 mbps, sealed against moisture and dust. (nobody seems to see that!!) , uses CF cards, no silly 3 position mini switches for ISO (DB) and white balance. But a quick way to put it where you want, without digging deep in a menu. It works like on the DSLR's and that is really really quick. Important for Documentaries etc. And it seems to have the best sensor around, with th best lowlight possibilities and very filmic look, like the Arri Alexa!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=22702359 Che Broadnax

      Arie Van Dam Yeah, but 4:2:2 MPEG2 files? Ick. I've worked with the RED and RED MX a LOT, and those cameras certainly have their share of idiosyncratic quirks and straight up boneheaded flaws, but what they do better than anybody (besides Alexa shooting ARRIRAW) is give you some files with some freaking color data in them. RED RAW is soooo far preferred to a 4:2:2 signal compressed in MPEG (of all things). And even if you're shooting SxS on Alexa you can choose 4:4:4:4 and it's ProRes which is a much easier to use format than MPEG. I don't care about 4K, really, I'm fine with 2K. And I'd live with HD if Canon could just give us a file that wasn't compressed so dang much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622466527 Brad Kersch

    For film makers it looks like the red is still the better choice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=622466527 Brad Kersch

    For film makers it looks like the red is still the better choice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=541750064 Danny Riley

    I need a small camera that can that is HD and easy to use on the trading floor for down loading utube clips.Its loud on the floor. Any ideas? [email protected]

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      A canon DSLR.!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=541750064 Danny Riley

    I need a small camera that can that is HD and easy to use on the trading floor for down loading utube clips.Its loud on the floor. Any ideas? [email protected]

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      A canon DSLR.!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001339147506 North Laine Packshot

    Where can I try this out in the UK?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001339147506 North Laine Packshot

    Where can I try this out in the UK?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172106871258 Albert Pyun Movies

    I just bought the Canon T3i to use to shoot BG plates for my green screen movie (shoot with panasonic 3000) called "Road to Hell". I am about to begin shooting a prequel to my 1989 Van Damme film, Cyborg: Rise of the slingers" and was wondering if anyone here has shoot an action feature with the T3i? Any issues, advice?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500525818 Scott Ressler

      my one complaint about the T3i, and the reason i wouldn't buy one, is that it has limited ISO settings. so you'll be getting noisier footage than with the non-Rebel DSLRs. i'd recommend returning that camera and getting a 60D. also, if you haven't shot with a DSLR, do your homework... it's a sometimes frustrating task, so be ready for the problems. i've shot 2 little features with the 7D and they look good, but we had our share of headaches. mostly overheating cameras, batteries and CF cards going bad, etc. and getting a proper exposure is trickier.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172106871258 Albert Pyun Movies

      Thanks, Scott for the advice. much appreciated.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000354999565 Cindy Holt

      Scott - I think we're going to light heavy enough to keep the ISO of whatever we use to 800 or lower.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500525818 Scott Ressler

      even so, you'll find that multiples of 160 iso are noticeably less grainy than multiples of 100. i believe (but will have to double check this) that 640 is less grainy than 400 on the 7D. worth checking.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1088377659 Reid Robinson

      Just caught this post but suggest looking at the Magic Lantern firmware upgrades for the 5D and T3i, if you haven't already. It's added some video/audio functions that were critical for me.
      http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172106871258 Albert Pyun Movies

    I just bought the Canon T3i to use to shoot BG plates for my green screen movie (shoot with panasonic 3000) called "Road to Hell". I am about to begin shooting a prequel to my 1989 Van Damme film, Cyborg: Rise of the slingers" and was wondering if anyone here has shoot an action feature with the T3i? Any issues, advice?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500525818 Scott Ressler

      my one complaint about the T3i, and the reason i wouldn't buy one, is that it has limited ISO settings. so you'll be getting noisier footage than with the non-Rebel DSLRs. i'd recommend returning that camera and getting a 60D. also, if you haven't shot with a DSLR, do your homework... it's a sometimes frustrating task, so be ready for the problems. i've shot 2 little features with the 7D and they look good, but we had our share of headaches. mostly overheating cameras, batteries and CF cards going bad, etc. and getting a proper exposure is trickier.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172106871258 Albert Pyun Movies

      Thanks, Scott for the advice. much appreciated.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000354999565 Cindy Holt

      Scott - I think we're going to light heavy enough to keep the ISO of whatever we use to 800 or lower.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500525818 Scott Ressler

      even so, you'll find that multiples of 160 iso are noticeably less grainy than multiples of 100. i believe (but will have to double check this) that 640 is less grainy than 400 on the 7D. worth checking.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1088377659 Reid Robinson

      Just caught this post but suggest looking at the Magic Lantern firmware upgrades for the 5D and T3i, if you haven't already. It's added some video/audio functions that were critical for me.
      http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172106871258 Albert Pyun Movies

    I just shoot a test with the Red epic and was very disappointed with the 5k quality at 120 fps. So its either the Alexa or F3 or, preferrably, my T3i. I've shoot a bit using the 5D on two films and it's lead me to consider using the T3i for my next film.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=625537916 Rob Ridenour

      you know I like the surrealistic look of Road to Hell and Tales of the Ancient Empire. What did you shoot those with?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000354999565 Cindy Holt

      Two different systems, Rob. RTH was with the Panasonic 3000 which gave us a ton of technical problems and almost made the film impossible to finish, and Tales was with the Sony F-900 which I really like but doesn't shoot at the resolution I need for Cyborg's effects and is a fairly large bulky camera system. Sony's F3 I believe is their next generation HD cine camera.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000161070200 Fredric Fritz

      Really? Maybe I won't stick with Panasonic. I was actually considering that camera.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000354999565 Cindy Holt

      It was really with this particular model and the problems stumped Panasonic's main engineers in New Jersey. It was a bad model.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=172106871258 Albert Pyun Movies

    I just shoot a test with the Red epic and was very disappointed with the 5k quality at 120 fps. So its either the Alexa or F3 or, preferrably, my T3i. I've shoot a bit using the 5D on two films and it's lead me to consider using the T3i for my next film.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=625537916 Rob Ridenour

      you know I like the surrealistic look of Road to Hell and Tales of the Ancient Empire. What did you shoot those with?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000354999565 Cindy Holt

      Two different systems, Rob. RTH was with the Panasonic 3000 which gave us a ton of technical problems and almost made the film impossible to finish, and Tales was with the Sony F-900 which I really like but doesn't shoot at the resolution I need for Cyborg's effects and is a fairly large bulky camera system. Sony's F3 I believe is their next generation HD cine camera.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000161070200 Fredric Fritz

      Really? Maybe I won't stick with Panasonic. I was actually considering that camera.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000354999565 Cindy Holt

      It was really with this particular model and the problems stumped Panasonic's main engineers in New Jersey. It was a bad model.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003098076153 Dominic Sotirescu

    The Canon might be good for wedding videos but not for indie film making. I can't believe the ignorance, you are comparing an average camera with state of the art RED technology, modular design, the ability to upgrade, raw video, etc. And by the way RED works extremely well even with Canon lenses.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      Hello Dominic. This is an insult to professional filmmakers, who made award winning movies with Canon 7D, 5D MKII, XL1 Sony ex1 and a lot of other cameras!!
      I don't know what you have filmed with RED, but I did a feature film, and about 14 music videos on RED. In the future I will use Sony Canon and Arri!!! This is just because of all of the hidden costs with RED and above all the unreliability!!! And not to forget the fake specs. The 4K of RED is like a very good HD.. 2.7 K. But the DR is not as good. Highlights burnout suddenly and with higher ISO some weird noice will kick in. My next feaure film will probably be on two Canon's C300. By the way, it is not a wedding!! ;)
      Best regards, Arie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003098076153 Dominic Sotirescu

    The Canon might be good for wedding videos but not for indie film making. I can't believe the ignorance, you are comparing an average camera with state of the art RED technology, modular design, the ability to upgrade, raw video, etc. And by the way RED works extremely well even with Canon lenses.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552141568 Arie Van Dam

      Hello Dominic. This is an insult to professional filmmakers, who made award winning movies with Canon 7D, 5D MKII, XL1 Sony ex1 and a lot of other cameras!!
      I don't know what you have filmed with RED, but I did a feature film, and about 14 music videos on RED. In the future I will use Sony Canon and Arri!!! This is just because of all of the hidden costs with RED and above all the unreliability!!! And not to forget the fake specs. The 4K of RED is like a very good HD.. 2.7 K. But the DR is not as good. Highlights burnout suddenly and with higher ISO some weird noice will kick in. My next feaure film will probably be on two Canon's C300. By the way, it is not a wedding!! ;)
      Best regards, Arie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000087609240 Kollmann András

    I shot a feature lengthe documentary on 5d and I'm unsatisfied with the result what I see in the movie theather. canon sounds good but come on, h264 is a limited stuff. and consider HDR waht red gives for 6 k less than canon c300

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000087609240 Kollmann András

    I shot a feature lengthe documentary on 5d and I'm unsatisfied with the result what I see in the movie theather. canon sounds good but come on, h264 is a limited stuff. and consider HDR waht red gives for 6 k less than canon c300

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1156187575 Made JAya WIntara

    cantik.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1156187575 Made JAya WIntara

    cantik.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003182936327 Babnaw Getachew

    this is good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003182936327 Babnaw Getachew

    this is good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1195599800 Gehad Anwer

    welcome to art.......................

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1195599800 Gehad Anwer

    welcome to art.......................

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000127687376 Prachyawut Phujong

    wow the best camera

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000127687376 Prachyawut Phujong

      New Canon .

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000127687376 Prachyawut Phujong

    wow the best camera

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000127687376 Prachyawut Phujong

      New Canon .

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000205424869 Adil Akreyi

    Possible request
    Which is better for movies Canon C 300 or the RED SCARLET.
    I am now I have a Canon 5D and 7D G.
    But I want to go and can I change for the better.
    Possible advice
    Thank you

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000205424869 Adil Akreyi

    Possible request
    Which is better for movies Canon C 300 or the RED SCARLET.
    I am now I have a Canon 5D and 7D G.
    But I want to go and can I change for the better.
    Possible advice
    Thank you

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002676900276 Maurice Bossers

    Red has been providing the world with fast and great service for some time now. We have our service done with Red in London. Usually it takes a day or two. I'd call that one of the best service you can get at the moment.
    4K is, I must admit a bit of a tricky subject. With bayering you won't get much higher than (perceived) 3.1K and with motionblur at 24fps you won't get higher than (perceived) 2K in normal situations (moving images).
    I like the RAW aspect, but with a good operator/DP I don't really see the need for that; if you have a good compressed Log picture in three channels at 10bit (aka F35/F65/Genesis: yes people: 30bit at a total sample), you can't tell me that that has less to play with than Red's 12 bit for a total sample. So high end FX have been inserted many times in that type of material ;).
    So I'd have to agree on some points with the author, but the main thing I find wrong with the article is: you can't compare these two completely different cameras on specs alone.
    It all depends on the production requirements.
    Furthermore: you may only compare cameras if you have worked extensively with both of them, which is -in this case- impossible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002676900276 Maurice Bossers

    Red has been providing the world with fast and great service for some time now. We have our service done with Red in London. Usually it takes a day or two. I'd call that one of the best service you can get at the moment.
    4K is, I must admit a bit of a tricky subject. With bayering you won't get much higher than (perceived) 3.1K and with motionblur at 24fps you won't get higher than (perceived) 2K in normal situations (moving images).
    I like the RAW aspect, but with a good operator/DP I don't really see the need for that; if you have a good compressed Log picture in three channels at 10bit (aka F35/F65/Genesis: yes people: 30bit at a total sample), you can't tell me that that has less to play with than Red's 12 bit for a total sample. So high end FX have been inserted many times in that type of material ;).
    So I'd have to agree on some points with the author, but the main thing I find wrong with the article is: you can't compare these two completely different cameras on specs alone.
    It all depends on the production requirements.
    Furthermore: you may only compare cameras if you have worked extensively with both of them, which is -in this case- impossible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=793679379 Victor Rosa

    YEAH BUDDY! Canon's got my interest!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=673264028 Perry Figueroa

      Que mamao! :-P

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=793679379 Victor Rosa

    YEAH BUDDY! Canon's got my interest!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=673264028 Perry Figueroa

      Que mamao! :-P

  • http://www.facebook.com/paddyoxox Patrick McCann

    Hi Richard, so... one year on, you have had a chance to think. Where do you sit in the mix now?

    • http://twitter.com/BrandedChannels Richard vd Boogaard

      A lot has changed in less than a year. Camera manufacturers are spitting out new cameras faster than the blink of an eye, it seems. Sony has entered the market with the F5 and F55, while the Black Magic Design Cinema Camera is also being delivered to users (who ordered it more than a year ago). I'm sure we'll see more interesting announcements (4K!) this NAB.

      I myself have chosen to go for Canon's Cinema line. Initially with the purchase of a C300, later complemented with a C100 (as B-cam and glidecam-camera). They complement each other well, although transcoding of long interviews shot in MTS format is recommended for smooth performance in your edit.

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